Joel Primack: Consciousness of the Cosmos

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#1 Joel Primack: Consciousness of the Cosmos

Beitrag von Demian » Mi 6. Aug 2014, 07:08

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Clip from Joel Primack's talk at SAND'12. For the complete talk please visit:
http://fora.tv/conference/science_and_n ... rence_2012

"Astronomers have discovered that the universe is like nothing anyone could have guessed. For one thing, it is 99.5% invisible -- everything visible makes up only about half of one percent of the cosmic density. But a combination of observations, theory, and supercomputer simulations has allowed us to visualize the evolution and structure of the entire universe, the invisible as well as the visible, from the Big Bang to the present and into the future. The invisible dark matter and dark energy control the evolution and future of the cosmos. In the far future, the visible universe will consist of just the nearby galaxies that are bound together by gravity. We humans could be the source of intelligence in the entire future visible universe -- if we can during the 21st century come to a just, peaceful, sustainable relationship with each other and our home planet."

Joel R. Primack, PH.D.
Professor of Physics at the University of California, Santa Cruz

"Joel R. Primack is one of the world's leading cosmologists and a creator of the foundational theory of Cold Dark Matter, which is the basis of the standard modern theory of the universe. He and his team use some of the world's biggest supercomputers to simulate the evolution of the universe, and they compare the results with observational data. Primack has recently chaired the Forum on Physics and Society of the American Physical Society, as well as the Committee on Science, Ethics, and Religion of the American Association for the Advancement of Science. He is a coauthor with Frank von Hippel of Advice and Dissent: Scientists in the Political Arena (1974). With Nancy Ellen Abrams, he is co-author of The View from the Center of the Universe: Discovering Our Extraordinary Place in the Cosmos (Penguin/Riverhead, 2006) and The New Universe and the Human Future: How a Shared Cosmology Could Transform the World (Yale University Press, 2011) http://new-universe.org . Primack and Abrams are married and have a daughter, Samara Bay (samarasworld.com)."

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#2 Re: Joel Primack: Consciousness of the Cosmos

Beitrag von Demian » Mi 6. Aug 2014, 07:30

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"If greeting card poet Susan Polis Schultz wrote about physics and the universe, this is the book she would produce. Filled with simplistic observations ("In their hearts most people are still living in an imagined universe where... we humans have no special place and often feel insignificant") as well as romantic cheerleading ("We need to overflow with gratitude that our universe... is filled with light and possibilities"), it offers cosmology disguised as a self-help guide to the universe. The authors—Primack is a physicist at UC–Santa Cruz, and Abrams is a philosopher of science—contend that Newton's picture of the universe as shapeless and endless left humans feeling cosmically homeless, but in response they articulate a Peter Pan physics in which humans are intimately related to the universe because we are made of stardust, i.e., we're an integral part of the cosmos. Our place in the universe is extraordinary, they claim, because the universe will never be in this moment of time again, and we have a responsibility to take care of the Earth since there is still time to solve some of our cosmic problems. Attempting to weave science and spirituality into one cosmic fabric, the authors satisfy the reader in neither realm."

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#3 Re: Joel Primack: Consciousness of the Cosmos

Beitrag von Pluto » Mi 6. Aug 2014, 11:42

Demian hat geschrieben:"Astronomers have discovered that the universe is like nothing anyone could have guessed. For one thing, it is 99.5% invisible...
Nicht 99,5% sondern 95% unsichtbar. Da hat der Blogger was falsch verstanden.
Der Naturalist sagt nichts Abschließendes darüber, was in der Welt ist.

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#4 Re: Joel Primack: Consciousness of the Cosmos

Beitrag von Demian » Mi 6. Aug 2014, 18:34

Pluto hat geschrieben:
Demian hat geschrieben:"Astronomers have discovered that the universe is like nothing anyone could have guessed. For one thing, it is 99.5% invisible...
Nicht 99,5% sondern 95% unsichtbar. Da hat der Blogger was falsch verstanden.

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#5 Re: Joel Primack: Consciousness of the Cosmos

Beitrag von Pluto » Mi 6. Aug 2014, 18:38

Demian hat geschrieben:
Pluto hat geschrieben:
Demian hat geschrieben:"Astronomers have discovered that the universe is like nothing anyone could have guessed. For one thing, it is 99.5% invisible...
Nicht 99,5% sondern 95% unsichtbar. Da hat der Blogger was falsch verstanden.

Hast Du noch mehr zu sagen?
Ich sah in dem Video nirgendwo einen Hinweis auf Bewusstsein. Du vielleicht?
Was ich sah bestätigt, dass das Universum ein gewaltiger Raum ist, in dem sich hin und wieder etwas Materie findet.

Hast du dir das Video eigentlich angeschaut?
Der Naturalist sagt nichts Abschließendes darüber, was in der Welt ist.

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#6 Re: Joel Primack: Consciousness of the Cosmos

Beitrag von Demian » Mi 6. Aug 2014, 18:39

Pluto hat geschrieben:Ich sah in dem Video nirgendwo einen Hinweis auf Bewusstsein. Du vielleicht?
Hast du dir das Video eigentlich mal angeschaut?

Schaue Dir das Ganze an, welches verlinkt ist.

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#7 Re: Joel Primack: Consciousness of the Cosmos

Beitrag von Pluto » Mi 6. Aug 2014, 18:47

Demian hat geschrieben:Schaue Dir das Ganze an, welches verlinkt ist.
Fora.tv ist mir ein Begriff. Das Video habe ich mir angeschaut. Auch da erkenne ich keinen Hinweis auf ein Bewusstsein welches unabhängig ist von Materie.

Der Titel des Threads heißt: Joel Primack: Consiousness of the Cosmos.
Warum sollte das Universum ein Bewusstsein haben?
Der Naturalist sagt nichts Abschließendes darüber, was in der Welt ist.


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#9 Re: Joel Primack: Consciousness of the Cosmos

Beitrag von Pluto » Mi 6. Aug 2014, 19:16

Demian hat geschrieben:Das hast Du gesehen?
http://fora.tv/2012/10/26/Joel_Primack_ ... the_Cosmos
Okay. Das ist das vollständige Video.
Eine schöne Lektion is Kosmologie.
Darin erkennt man sehr schön die Fähigkeit zur Selbststrukturierung des Universums. Der Antrieb scheint die Gravitation zu sein.

Aber wo ist das Bewusstsein?
Der Naturalist sagt nichts Abschließendes darüber, was in der Welt ist.

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